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Here is your episode discussion post for Discovery 1x11: "The Wolf Inside."

Please be aware that there will be spoilery comments on this entry. As always, I'll be back later this evening to join in the party once I've had a chance to watch the episode, and if the conversation hasn't gotten too far without me I will add some discussion starters or other remarks behind a cut.



So, wow, I have to admit I did not expect shit to go down quite this quickly! I admit, part way through the episode I started wondering wtf the last four episodes were going to be about, but, well, I have a theory about that after the end of this episode.

First off, I think we can now safely say that if this episode had a moral, it might be "Don't put the weight of your entire sanity and ability to function as a human being on one person, no matter how much you love them." Ash, baby... my dear Lt. Bambi and also you goddamned face-eating Klingon... you could have avoided all of this to some extent if you'd just admitted way back when, "Hey, I might need help. I am probably not safe to be on duty in my current mental state. I should seek therapy. And not kill the doctor who grounds me out of concern and compassion."

Another good moral might be "When you're in an alternate universe, don't fuck up and call people by names they haven't told you yet," BURNHAM. "I've decided I'm going to call you that," says Burnham of Saru's actual name. Not like he's going to be at all suspicious about that one!

"Tell the people you trust the full truth," might also be a lesson to take from this. Burnham, maybe tell Saru!Prime that you did indeed find him on the Mirror Shenzhou. Saru!Prime, maybe tell Burnham that Culber is dead. You don't know if this information might turn out to be important. And the very fact that you left it out just basically ensured that it will be.

"When your friends start acting erratically, give them a break and encourage them to step back from stressful responsibilities that seem to be taking a toll on them." Hey, Burnham - notice how Ash is having a real hard time coping with this mission all of a sudden? Maybe send him outside to get some air rather than assuming he can handle it when you know damned well that's a 50/50 proposition. That way maybe he won't attack himself the dude you're trying to have peace talks with.

"No good deed ever goes unpunished," as Burnham learns that while she can trick the crew of the Shenzhou into believing that she's just really into hands-on management methods in the destruction of the rebel base (...man, what fandom am I in right now?), there are other people who are less easily fooled.

And of course, the ever-popular "Shoot first, ask questions later." If your boyfriend says that he's a Klingon who killed Dr. Culber and remembers you killing his lord and trying to gouge his eyes out back at the beginning of the season, consider shooting him before he tries to finish you.

For the fans, "Be careful what you wish for" would seem like it might be appropriate wisdom to take to heart. Oh, have I wished for Georgiou back. So many times. As soon as I heard there was going to be a Mirror Universe episode, my first response was "I want Mirror!Georgiou." And I still do. But holy freaking hell is Emperor Georgiou going to be terrifying. I'm not sorry I wished for this, but... well, ask me again next week.

Lastly, a moral purely for me: "When one fan theory turns out to be 100% correct, don't dismiss the next you run across as unlikely." Because I am starting to seriously fall in line with this whole "Lorca is from the Mirror Universe" thing, and I think right now that it might be the best possible explanation of where the next episodes are going to go.

Date: 2018-01-15 03:17 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tptigger
It was. It was brutal. and really, I wish someone would tell them just because they're on streaming doesn't mean that they have to get super graphic/violent.

Date: 2018-01-15 03:19 am (UTC)
cheyinka: A sketch of a Metroid (Eeek! A Metroid!)
From: [personal profile] cheyinka
I'm a little sad that this show is thoroughly unsafe for my kindergartener to watch. There's nightmare fuel in it for me.

Date: 2018-01-19 08:51 pm (UTC)
mekare: Flower patterned Japanese paper (Michael)
From: [personal profile] mekare
Urgh I looked away every single time. And they kept showing more and more. Every single time. I don’t need to see this to know there were atrocious things done to Tyler.

Date: 2018-01-15 04:08 am (UTC)
tptigger: (Default)
From: [personal profile] tptigger
Right? I was raised on TOS from a younger age than that! (On the other hand, since you have the CBS All Access subscription, it's all on there...)
My friends were talking about their kids watching before I aired, and I was all, "you might want to see it first"
"Star Trek?"
"It's on streaming."
I hate being right.

Date: 2018-01-15 05:15 pm (UTC)
monanotlisa: Ash holding Michael close to touch foreheads, to breathe the same air (ashburn - star trek disco)
From: [personal profile] monanotlisa
YES THANK YOU URGH.

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