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Help me come up with a tagging system! Should it be...

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General: "Discussion", "fic", art", etc?
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More specific: "Discussion", "episode posts", fan work: fic", "fanwork: art", etc?
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Extremely specific, please don't choose this for my sake: "Discussion: Episode 1x01", etc?
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Something else, which I will discuss in the comments
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Do we need character tags?

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Yes
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No
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I reject your binary and will discuss it in the comments
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Did I miss something?

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Yes, let's talk about it in the comments
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No, I just like clicking things
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Also, I'd like to have weekly episode posts as they air (Star Trek! Airing every week! This is amazing!), but I'm in Australia, so I'm a few hours behind the US.

(I remember when we were a few years behind, and grateful if the VCR managed to get the whole episode because they ran at 11 o'clock at night and who knew how late the news would run?)

Anyway, if someone in America could take charge of episode posts, that would be amazing. I'm trying to avoid spoilers.

Date: 2017-10-28 10:02 pm (UTC)
rivendellrose: (Georgiou)
From: [personal profile] rivendellrose
I'm unsure about the character tags (I can see how it would be useful if a post is highly focused, but I wouldn't want to use them for, like, a general discussion post?), but I think at least having an "episode posts" tag would be helpful.

I do episode posts for at least the next few weeks. I have something on Sundays coming up starting the 11th, so someone else might be a better choice if their schedule is more open, but I can probably figure it out if no one else is available.

Date: 2017-10-28 10:30 pm (UTC)
rivendellrose: (Georgiou)
From: [personal profile] rivendellrose
Oh no, is it this week? I thought we had at least one week in November! You're probably right, I am just not prepared to be cut off so soon!

Are you thinking a blank discussion post with just the title for people to commented in, posted at 5:30 PST and then watched by the person "in charge," or more of a post-facto "Here are a few things to think about re: this episode" kind of thing to start conversation? I'm happy to do either.

(Yeeeep. It's so cruel that they make everybody outside the US wait! It's streaming, ffs, people, just put it up everywhere!)

Date: 2017-10-28 11:40 pm (UTC)
rivendellrose: (Burnham)
From: [personal profile] rivendellrose
No, I think we have three left. Plenty of time to make me sad and angry by killing Cornwell!

Oh good! ...Well. The part about three episodes. The rest, man, this show and its female characters. There's a part of me that wants to say "Don't worry, Cornwell's white!" too, which, EUGH. Because non-speaking redhead from the Shenzhou is still around, but we have to kill off Georgiou and Landry within two episodes each. Way to go, show. It's great that we have Burnham and the non-speaking black helmswoman, but maaaaaybe they could not burn through all the other WOC quite so quickly?

Either is good! Whatever you feel like and have time for.

Okay, sounds good!

I don't really mind a few hours' wait, because it's not like I can take an hour out of my working day to watch Netflix. But I might feel differently if I had Mondays off. (A friend of mine did organise her four-day work week to accommodate Twin Peaks Mondays. She had no regrets.)

Ahhh, true, that might be even worse, if the show was available in the middle of the work day!

Date: 2017-10-29 02:58 am (UTC)
rivendellrose: (Burnham)
From: [personal profile] rivendellrose
RIGHT? I saw a post on Tumblr praising the show for its "complete lack of sexism", and I was like, I am pastier than Tilly and even I know that's some white feminism nonsense.

"Complete lack of sexism," ohhhhh boy. No. This show has not solved every problem with the *isms in the Star Trek universe, any more than they were solved by casting Sisko or Janeway. Yikes.

Date: 2017-10-29 02:20 am (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
(I'm so sad about losing Landry, I really wanted her and Michael to become grudgingly respectful of each other.)

Date: 2017-10-29 02:59 am (UTC)
rivendellrose: (Georgiou)
From: [personal profile] rivendellrose
(I'm so sad about losing Landry, I really wanted her and Michael to become grudgingly respectful of each other.)

Me too! I was really excited when her casting announcement came out, because I remembered her from BSG and was hoping she'd be better served this time. So much for that hope!

Date: 2017-10-29 03:05 am (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
YEAH SERIOUSLY, that whole storyline made me nuts. And not to sound super-shallow, but omg that actress is hot

I really wanted her to respect Michael and slowly come around on the Lorca thing and stand up to him and be all like YOU DON'T OWN ME in a big scene or something. Because he has this habit of collecting rebellious or just nonconforming crew and also really manipulating them, and it seemed like he had something on her.
Edited Date: 2017-10-29 03:07 am (UTC)

Date: 2017-10-29 03:34 am (UTC)
rivendellrose: (Burnham)
From: [personal profile] rivendellrose
YEAH SERIOUSLY, that whole storyline made me nuts. And not to sound super-shallow, but omg that actress is hot

Same, completely. Why do you think I remembered her and was excited, even after all these years? It wasn't because of all the hard work the BSG writers put into her character's arc, that's for sure.

It would have been such a great arc for Landry to come around and respect Michael and realize that Lorca was dicking them both around, just like he dicks everyone around. And I'm sure we're going to get there eventually (in the sense that Lorca will get his comeuppance at Burnham's hand), but it's not going to mean quite as much with Georgiou and Landry both dead, damn it! And Landry, man, that was just such a stupid death.

Date: 2017-10-29 03:44 am (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
Why do you think I remembered her and was excited, even after all these years? It wasn't because of all the hard work the BSG writers put into her character's arc, that's for sure.

I had already sort of noped out on BSG (although my husband and I kept bingewatching til the end) but how they treated Tory and Ellen and Dee was so aggravating. How they treated ALL the women was infuriating by the end. sigh. Oh show. You were so great for a while.

It would have been such a great arc for Landry to come around and respect Michael and realize that Lorca was dicking them both around, just like he dicks everyone around.

YES also I personally love that prickly "Well I still can't really stand you but I respect you and will go along with your plan, and maybe I like you more but I'm not going to admit it" dynamic. They seemed perfectly set up for it.

And I'm sure we're going to get there eventually (in the sense that Lorca will get his comeuppance at Burnham's hand), but it's not going to mean quite as much with Georgiou and Landry both dead, damn it! And Landry, man, that was just such a stupid death.

SERIOUSLY. And Landry was not stupid! She couldn't have survived that long in those harsh circumstances being that stupid. She did seem kind of harsh and drill instructor-ish when we first saw her, but it was like they just wrote the character off rather than giving her any subtlety. And it made Michael look stupid too -- this thing just KILLED one of your crewmates, no people aren't going to listen to you.

-- Oh well that's what fic is for. I see myself writing something where Landry is horribly injured and has to go thru rehab and Lorca is unsympathetic and demotes her, and she starts seeing more of Michael. And Philippa is obviously in some Klingon prison (SPACE CANNIBALISM LOL) and Kat will rescue her and they'll come back all HI LORCA, HOW YOU DOING. NOT SO GOOD.

(I do really really enjoy the show, and the diversity is great. I just wish it was even better. I also hope it's not going to break my heart. I really think they're going for Captain Burnham in the midseason break, or at the start of S2.)

Date: 2017-10-29 06:58 am (UTC)
nenya_kanadka: Captain Georgiou, Star Trek Discovery (ST Philippa Georgiou)
From: [personal profile] nenya_kanadka
I like the idea of some basic tags (episode posts, discussion, fanworks: art, fanworks: icons, fanworks: fic or whatever) and then we can always make more as we go along.

Could have character tags that *existed* but were optional? Like, use them for fic or art if you wanted, but you wouldn't have to, and you wouldn't be expected to for discussion posts or whatever.

I feel like over-tagging might smother things, but we can always add more tags.

Also in favour of episode posts, and of [personal profile] rivendellrose doing them! I'm always a day behind in my viewing, as I have nonstandard access methods that involve waiting 24h for the subtitle files to be posted, but that just means there's something to read by the time I get here, I think. :D

Date: 2017-10-29 09:37 am (UTC)
nostalgia: (Default)
From: [personal profile] nostalgia
A way to stop me accidentally spoilering myself, so episode tags on discussions etc and I am not sure about character tags now that I think about it in case I see a character I've not seen yet.

Date: 2017-10-29 09:51 am (UTC)
nostalgia: (Default)
From: [personal profile] nostalgia
Yeah, spoiler-warnings is always good.

And yeah maybe being vague about characters when appropriate? Or is that too vague?

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